Alaska Airlines added to its own history with their first-ever flight commanded by two African-American women pilots. Captain Tara Write and First Officer Mallory Cave operated the carrier's historic flight from San Francisco (SFO) to Portland (PDX). (www.foxnews.com) Ещё...
First of all, congrats to Alaska Airlines and this crew, secondly, I am a volunteer at the Tuskegee Airmen National Air Museum at Detroit City Airport (KDET) where we are involved in providing free aviation and rocketry training to local kids. The program is open to all but due to our location most students are African American. We teach aviation to 5th thru 8th graders at two local middle schools. Every Thursday night we teach Rocketry and Private Pilot Ground school at KDET, as part of the ground school our volunteer CFI's actually give the students free flight lessons in the Museum owned tralining airplanes. I think we'll have a few more young ladies from our class join the ranks of Tara and Mallory in the next few years.
To the many wondering why this is news, or the insanity of it actually being news: it's news because here and now, in the early stages of the 21st century, we still recognize the different races. Personally, I celebrate the differences. I love the cultures and differences. I can't get past the thought of how bland humanity would be without our differences.
They deserve special attention because this is out of the ordinary for an airline flight crew in the United States. Probly over 90 percent Caucasian male. This will inspire minority females to enter aviation. I was inspired to become a pilot because I saw a black coast guard pilot at an air show when i was a kid.
Personally I am tired of the stratification of society by skin color, gender, ethnicity, gender, religion etc. I am only concerned about merit whether in the operating room or a cockpit. We rely on the airline to place the best qualified individuals available to sit up front irrespective of any of their other characteristics.
Probably wouldn't make a difference to anyone as long as the folks up front are qualified, period, as you said. However, I'd bet most of us had role models growing up. I think their message is not so much aimed at old white guys like me, but to young girls of color. Their encouraging message is that, "Yeah, you can do this, too."
Dave, you're on-point. I would not have pursued a career in aviation and engineering without encouragement from many of my female mentors (of all ethnicities.)
As someone who grew up with a family member being one of the Tuskegee Airmen, plus being Black/Native American, and having a son who looks up at my great uncle who was that Tuskegee Airman, I can safely and genuinely say that your statement is a crock, and that yes, my son believes that yes, he can do this too.
I wonder if you'd say the same to all of those other women who looked up to BOTH Amelia Mary Earhart and Amelia Rose Earhart, and thought to themselves "hey, I can do this too."
Dr. King asked for a color-blind society 50 years ago. We will never get there as long as the government and the media promote the stratification you mention. Unfortunately, the DNC gets tens of millions of votes "promoting" race and gender stratification.
I agree with Canuck44. Why is their race important? Are they qualified? That's all we need to know. Actually, this shouldn't even be of interest. We should be able to feel comfortable with airlines' choices for flight deck crews without regard for race, gender, etc. Are we waiting for the first flight deck crew piloted by trannies? In this day and age, more than ever, people can achieve their goals if they will apply themselves. We just got through with the first president of color. That should be an incentive for everyone to work to reach their goals.
What are the chances that both of them emigrated from [some country in] Africa, became US Citizens, and are now flying as a crew for Alaska Airlines? The odds are astronomical!
Couple weeks ago I was in Nassau where there were four VERY LOUD VERY intoxicated women pontificating about Presidential politics...each of the four were black women (wait, is that womyn?)...their custom T-Shirts read "BLACK AND MORE EDUCATED THAN MOST WHITES. That did not go over very well in a primarily black restaurant. Fact is whites are no longer the the racists...by and large the blacks feel indentured and we owe them something...(Oddly, the only real "African American" I have had the pleasure of working with is a blond hair blue eyed physician from South Africa)
I hope you are banned from further participation in comments for this. This is a site that recognizes firsts in the industry. Your hateful, bigoted opinions have NO PLACE HERE. If you don’t have an AVIATION ACCOMPLISHMENT statement, please fell free to express it somewhere else. Have a Beautiful Day
Factually, Recor speaks like the ignorant, racist, hating dolt that he is and by extension the obvious underacheiver that he is.
Truth be told he has to knock women and people of color to attempt to build up his low self-esteem due to his incompetence... typical Repugnant blames others for his failed existence.
Family history research tells me that I appear to be descended from an Irish prisoner taken by Cromwell and sold into slavery to be sent to Barbados to labor on a sugar plantation. Enter Charles II who outlawed all white slavery, and freed those so occupied in Barbados. Luckily my ancestor escaped to Massachusetts and is reported to be the first Irish Catholic in New England. What puzzles me is the fact that many blacks do not want to hear this; like a profession, they want to be the only slaves. This is most common among less well educated people.
Why do I just not give a rats rear what happened to my great-great-great-great grand father on my mothers cousins uncles side? Oh, because I earned my own opportunities in life (as did my father). The rest are only looking for an excuse for personal failures (I see this every day in modern US Sports). In Europe (bicycle racing) someone will say "It was not my day, or person X had a great day"....in the US it is "I would have won IF......"....typical American victim mentality.
I totally agree with you Canuck44, next one wil be"First 787 piloted by 2 aliens" and following by "First Piper Cub piloted by 2 females Aliens"...ridiculous.. If they are able they are able..point.
yes - because in a classless raceless society =- no one would care. But since EVERYTHING is about class and race - you can't escape it. It's racist and sexist as heck because if you had a headline that say 'two white males flew an airline flight' no one would bat an eyelash - because no one SHOULD care who is up front.
I was on a Southwest flight on Wednesday, both pilots were white females. So what?
Perhaps you missed the squawk that was here a few months ago about there being a completely UNMANNED Southwest Airlines flight - one that was even mentioned by the First Officer up in the flight deck. They announced that it was an all-female crew, from the Caption, to the FO, to all of the flight attendants onboard. Passengers thought they meant that it was a drone or no-one was flying the aircraft, until they caught the joke that it was all women on the flight.
Looking at the negative comments here are a clear sign that there are some still out here in Aviation that are SO bigoted, it turns my stomach. These pilots are a FIRST, and send a STRONG MESSAGE to the young girls & women of EVERY COLOR that Yes, WE CAN DO THIS!!! Be proud of them. Be proud of their accomplishments. Be PROUD that, FINALLY, our girls are able to follow their dreams....
The haters will always hate, but REAL AVIATORS don’t throw stones at Aviators that are more than likely more qualified and/or talented than themselves.
"more than likely more talented." Right, there has been selective hiring based on diversity rather than competence for many decades now. So, I will have to disagree with your assessment... Back in the 90s, the word on the street was white guys need not apply at United. I met a retired United Captain years ago who fumed about incompetent pilots who were paid to "not" fly. The company wouldn't fire them for fear of a lawsuit. His words not mine. An Admiral in the Naval Air Training Command told the instructors in Corpus Christi that minorities would get their wings, period! This was in the early nineties. By the late nineties four woman were sent home from one Carrier Air wing. The CAG said they didn't meet standards required for shipboard operations. These jobs are too important to let PC come before competence and merit. Political correctness in hiring has tainted the accomplishments of minorities. These two pilots may be the best in the business, but who really knows as standards were compromised long ago to meet race/gender quotas.
This being Memorial Day weekend, please share your opinion with every Colored Vet who served in the US Armed Forces. Pretty sure any “discrimination” you feel a white person has “suffered” will pale in comparison (see what I did there?).
As a guy who’s entire life has been consumed in Aviation, I celebrate EVERY first in the industry and GA.
I’m fairly certain that your comment would have been more at home when men were nay-saying Amelia Earhart’s accomplishments.
Kind of like the standards were compromised.... by FINALLY "allowing the Tuskegee Red Tails" to fly escort and went on to have the best record in the air Corp.
Your comments are racist and ignorant, at least now we know where you stand, sick as it is!
Who is not sending the message that anyone can apply. Just dont expect an extra pat on the back or award for achieving something that others have for decades. Consider me UN-impressed with the story and people in it. They did nothing hundreds of others have not already done? Will the next award be for a trans-sexual who identifies as another color getting into a front seat be a milestone?
Ha, Gender still plays a big part in airline crews makeup. I know a lady that had taught flying for years and had CFI11 in single engine and twin land. She went through he-l to get to be first officer for a major airline. Left teaching to fly turboprops for a popular company and passed all their simulators. Got stuck with company Captains that treated her like sh--. Like going on hands and knees down center isle carpet with lint roller after every customer trip. Left in hot plane to wait for customers while Captain was in FBO enjoying AC and drinks...with customers. After watching these expert Captains break FARS one after another she quit. Went to school for another four months with another northern state airline and was put on reserve that never ended. After trying to quite the fake airline school business fellow airmen told her she has the skills don't quit. She applied ONE MORE TIME with another major airline and went to school at Huston for four months and is now living her dream. A little late in life but....
So, if you see a qualified female starting up front she has earn those three strips.
You have to remember these airline schools charge the student a fee ($$) for this training. If the new first officer don't full-fill their contract they owe the school money. This lady told me she owes $24000,for non-filling her contracts to these two schools. Not only must a new airman get the required hours on their own but get ripped off by non-performing schools that have no intention of moving them on.
Now, she says the crews she works with are the finest to be with and learns more on every flight.
I have over thirty years in the airline industry. One of the greatest joys in the business was how diversified the industry is from ground to cockpit. One of the few industries were being a crew member was based on training, talent and a commitment to parallel goals. I have a daughter who is a captain on a large business jet. A few months back the cockpit was also all female. She found it insulting when news got out and a big deal was made about an all female cockpit. One can't be a successful pilot based solely on color, gender, size, religion etc. You have to be the best at what you do ... period!
By the down vote you got, you can see that the ignorance of the liberal ideals will always used <race-color-religion> as an reason for, and lack of success. It certainly can not be personal merit. Someone helped them succeed (or fail). Just ask the idiots in the Liberal Media.
I wonder when the Liberal Media will go after the Diamond business internationally. Wait...Hollywood loves Jewelry.
I just Fact Checked that for you; It seems it was the Democratic Party in the U.S.A that drafted and PASSED the bill to forbid the importation and/or sale of Blood Diamonds in the USA.
Next ridicules statement you’d like me to fact-check for you???
Relax.. it is like what captain says, "..little Airline's history in making". Congratulate, celebrate and compliment them. Little things mean a lot to others. Congratulations for reaching milestone crew!!
The whole thing is trying to say.... that everybody is equal... that only men can fly planes. This is proof that men and women should be treated equal and that they are capable of it.
this ought to be trumpeted about so that similar young ladies in search of their calling might rule this work as a possiblilty. Encouragement is a good thing, and if any passenger has discomfort after noticing the complexions of these or any other ladies up front, they should stop, turn around, and take the train. I remember a picture of the first all-women flight crew of a C-141, and remembered how wonderful that was. NOw it is commonplace, so that is progress of a sort.
can we all just say congrats no matter race or gender.? remember we awake each day and have a whole lot to b thnkful for. congrats to these two ladies and congrats to all you guys success and accomplishments as well. JM-
Exactly, but two qualified people at the pointy end would not then be a story, nor would it attempt to divide the nation as the "Liberal" idiotic media intends.
It does not matter about race or sex, what matters is are they the most qualified crew available, this should not be a showboat issue, it about time in type of aircraft and quality of flying experience. When they make this a publicity stunt it scares the hell out of me. Could this crew land the SW plane that had the engine and window failure recently, it not then they should not be together. We have a real shortage of pilots in this county and the airlines are moving new pilots up the ladder too quickly and their will be a disaster due to this, this has nothing to do with sex or race.
And if you stay white and male you are at the back of the bus. And will remain so. Get one of those caps with all the rainbow colors on them. You don't have to be one, just put it on the application and wear it to the interviews. And know the oral and nail the check ride. And for the rest of the crowd, see how the tone drifts on an aviation website after 8 years of hope and change. It ain't the website.
why is this news? good for Alaska I guess not sure why it was publicized as an African-American landmark. I am sure the two pilots are proud of their heritage and worked hard to get where they are...as did every other pilot who sat in the cockpit that day.
When you attach gushing fanfare to this so-called "achievement", the subtext might as well say: "the reason why this achievement is so remarkable is because women are inferior, especially black women, so therefore we expect much less of them, and if, against all odds and probability, they somehow exceed our expectations in spite of their inferiority, then such a fluke would be cause for special mention and celebration." Personally, I believe it's patronizing, if not insulting to make a big deal out of something a woman (of any color) has been able to do for a long time. You might as well congratulate them for being potty trained while you're at it!
Congratulations to two talented pilots. I just wonder from where it was in Africa that Alaska Air recruited them. Or wait!! Maybe they are actually Americans working for Alaska Air and just misidentified.
And what the hell do their names have to do with anything? My name isn't "African American", yet I am half Black/American Indian. This is about as baseless and stupid as RECOR10's comments above.
By that logic, George Washington Carver didn't identify with his "proud African Ancestry". But here you are, celebrating his ancestry by eating something he invented.
Again, keep it up with the idiotic statements. It truly shows what the problem is in this country, and where and who those problems lie with.
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