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Air Transat Flies 7600km Airbus A321LR Transatlantic Flight

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On Monday morning, Air Transat Flight TS690 landed in Athens, Greece, having flown all the way from Montreal, Canada. The one-time service was operated by a narrowbody Airbus A321LR and covered over 7,600 km. (simpleflying.com) Ещё...

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ctudge
Clive Tudge 10
Give me the seat pitch and width and the ability to walk up and down a few times and it's no problem. I've flown the Perth to London flight and it was fine (but only because I was in the Premium Economy!).
pvlarry12
Larry Easton 3
The article fails to say how many passengers with their baggage and crew were on board. it does say number of seats on the aircraft. it had tailwinds so it arrived 45 min ahead of schedule, that can't be the norm. What if headwinds? Knowing Air Transat unless you were in the first 12 seats, it would be extremely cramped. the other test flight with the heated dummies, also fails to mention if it had full baggage for weight purposes. People save for a long time for a holiday, only to save a few bucks and start their dream vacation on a cramped low cost airline! And finish it that way too. Oh for a return to the days when there was the likes of Wardair or economy was comfortable.
patpylot
patrick baker 9
passengers were met by physical therapists, massage therapists and other health workers to make for a speedy recovery from the rigors of that long a flight in those crowded conditions. The passengers were not smiling as they exited the aircraft, some walking stiffly, some shuffling slowly, but the airline accountants were very pleased by the performance of the airbus. Some passengers were heard to mention"never again", and "that was terrible"....
KicksOnRoute66
Roger Anderson 12
What's the difference between a narrow body and a 10 abreast economy cabin on Emirates? Still packed like sardines.
donpedro747
Pedro Don 2
Premium airlines consider a flight longer than 4 hours is a long-haul one. Cabin crew has a lot of extra duties during long-haul flights compared to short-hauls and completing those tasks they need an aisle.
If passengers are encouraged to stand up and walk as many times as possible (to avoid DVT), plus they need to use lavatories, crew is just unable to do the job.
I have a terrible experience with one of the Middle Eastern airlines when I took a 6 hour long route on board an A-320 to BUD. A couple hours after take-off some of the crew members were literally yelling at passengers when they lined up at the lavatories because they were stuck at the back of the plane. It happened quite a few times during that flight. Sending them a formal complaint, I then stopped using their service until they upgraded to A-330-300...

I have heard friends complaining a lot when they took the SIN-PER 6 hour long route on board a QF B-737-800.
When I took the same route in early 2010, QF operated 747-400ERs, few years later they downgraded to A-330-200 and before COVID-times it was the 737.
Money talks, passengers suffer...
sho69607
Spencer Hoefer 11
Trust me if they could make a fully loaded CRJ or Embraer fly this distance, they would lol.
Highflyer1950
Highflyer1950 6
LoL, I think the answer is to develop a lightweight, fully articulating passenger seat that not only the seat back moves but the seat bottom moves as well. Something where you are not jammed upright in a fixed position for hours on end but where you not quite lying flat but angled with legroom under the seat in front. Just might be a more relaxing a flight, now if only the seats vibrated when you put in a quarter? .
SkyAware123
SkyAware123 1
I've never understood why that can't be developed and take up the same space in economy? That's all I need, lay back more so I can sleep and not hurt my neck from falling asleep and dropping my head....
MickLucas
William Lucas 1
Exactly, just like they do in Business Class on Qantas!
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 5
I don't think the flight was nearly as bad as you make it seem. A321 aircraft routinely operate between Los Angeles and Honolulu, and that's a flight of a little over six hours. The flight to Athens was not much more than two hours longer.

Comfort is largely a question of seat pitch and width, and other environmental factors such as humidity and noise levels. If you have room to sit comfortably, it doesn't matter if it's a single-isle or dual-isle widebody.
MickLucas
William Lucas 2
I unfortunately flew from Melbourne to Heathrow via Singapore on an A380 in economy, in the air over 23 hours. I now travel in Business class for anything over four hours! !4 hours from LAX to MEL in an A380, flat beds and slept half the way. Wide awake on arrival.
MickLucas
William Lucas 1
That should read 14 hours from LAX to MEL!
snow
James Cox 3
I wonder where the 3rd pilot had to sit, in a first class seat with the rest of the passengers? (Last time I checked pilots can't be scheduled to fly more than 9 hours)
MickLucas
William Lucas 1
He probably would have used the jump seat, where spare crew or employees on a cheap flight often sit.
macswain
macswain 1
Great! Be the first to run out of fuel and set yet another record?
mrraallen
Richard Allen 1
It was a similar flight by Air Transat, that had the fuel leak 1/2 across the Atlantic, ran out of fuel and had to glide all the way to the Azore islands. Something to do with incorrect parts fitted abraiding a fuel line. Pilots got an award for the longest glide of a commercial airliner.
wopri
Wolfgang Prigge 1
You are talking about Air Transat Flight 236. The pilot, Robert Piché, was quite a character. Flight 236 was normally a quite simple overnight trip from Toronto to Lisbon, very much within the designed range of the A330.
BASH1040
Bashir Bashir 1
Single-isle,won't that be crammed?
SkyAware123
SkyAware123 2
how so ? It's less people. They did it all the time on the 727.
SkyAware123
SkyAware123 1
Well, why not but I still think this has more to do with planners being lazy and not analyzing markets enough to setup a schedule that fills a wide body to capacity. Sure, Covid messed that all up but that's not going to last forever and is (hopefully) not a common thing to happen.
jake9505
Dj Jacobson 1
The trick will be going back.
jake9505
Dj Jacobson 1
I see it stopped in Paris on the way back.
xairbusdriver
Jim Smirh 1
If you like legalize, try reading the FAA Regs on flight time. Then, read the regs on International flight time. Be sure to include all the info about crew rest, both time and in the aircraft during flight. I dare say you may look a lot like the folks getting off that aircraft! 8+O

Please get back to us next month when you can recite the regs without referring to FAA or company documents. You might then want to contact a carrier for a job in crew scheduling. ;+)

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