Not terribly surprising, the F-22 is an interceptor/air superiority a/c first and foremost, dogfighter second. I'm sure the same shortcomings apply to the F-15 as well.

No need to dogfight when you can blow the enemy out of the sky before he even know's you are there!

Once again, the news media must make news. The comparisons within the article are correctly written, but why the yellow press headline? Just the facts, please, just the facts. Keep your opinions to yourself.

Exactly. If there are Raptors in the area, nobody with a brain in any current aircraft would be likely to challenge them. The likelihood of an actual "old school" dogfight taking place is very slim. That's precicely why it's "old school".

I think i heard somewhere that the F-22 could take on 8 F-15Es simultaneously and blow them out of the sky before even getting a lock...

Who cares lol. Enemy aircraft probably won't be able to get within dogfighting range of the F-22 before its gotten close enough and fired off its missiles.

Most engagements today will be those in which you never see the other plane with your eyes. You will engage them on radar, so the dogfighting advantage is really null, especially with UAV's-which if we admit it (and we pilots hate to think it so) the future of aviation will be pilotless aircraft. This takes out human error-the largest factor in aircraft accidents.

The problem with the BVR capability, is that the US military has had so few BVR kills in the history of missile combat. You can count BVR kills just about on one hand. Add in the AIM-120D motor/delivery issues.....

Haha! What a waste of money. Just stick with the F-15E and you'll be fine.

But how many adversaries are left to come into the merge???