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Boeing to warn 737 MAX operators of a potential instrument failure that could cause the jet to nose-dive
Last week's Lion Air crash in Indonesia has prompted Boeing to issue a safety warning to all airlines operating the 737 MAX, instructing pilots in what to do if a specific sensor failure arises. (www.seattletimes.com) Ещё...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Hand flew the BE1900 C/D for 5 years back in the 90's for Mesa Airlines. +/- 100 feet, all wx, 6 to 8 legs a day in the midwest great lakes region. You became comfortable and proficient with raw data. Pilots should be comfortable with disconnecting the AP and hand flying when automation fails to do what it is intended to do...
I am surprised this plane isn't being grounded...what if this plane was on a ILS 300 feet above the ground leaving no chances of recovery, or am I missing something here? Reminds me of the BA A320 where there was a Total Air Temperature (TAT) disagreement between the airframe and the EEC sensors resulting in incorrect Variable Stator Vane positioning, leading to a surge. It only happened a a select few...but I think some more testing needs to be done
With the demand for more flights, complexity of systems, and more pilots needed, I see this happening again. More procedures just adds to complexity. They should fix and thoroughly TEST the manufactured equipment/hardware, and make sure there are simple procedures and alerts. Too many almost caused the crash of the A380 that had an engine malfunction. Humans can only absorb do much, and each reacts differently in time of crisis.
This was a simple erroneous indication. The crew turned it into a crisis. I'm not familiar with the 737 but I imagine there is a button on the control wheel that gives control to the pilot. Put the attitude where you want it, put the power where you want it, and fly the plane. It didn't take super-pilot to fly this airplane or AF447 for that matter. Pay no attention to the sounds, flashing lights, or the man behind the curtain. Set an attitude and power setting that you know the plane will fly at and then work the problem. Job one is aviate.
Maybe they should just fix the damn sensors!
The real question is why can’t you turn OFF the damn automated systems and be a pilot and fly the darn airplane?
If the automation clauses Uncommanded actions it needs to be marked inop until the cause is found. Do not throw parts at it. And why didn’t the pilots simply turn off the system?
Automation is literally going to be the death of us all.
If the automation clauses Uncommanded actions it needs to be marked inop until the cause is found. Do not throw parts at it. And why didn’t the pilots simply turn off the system?
Automation is literally going to be the death of us all.
You know. You were there.
As I am seeing pilot training develop you see people who simply take off and land and leave cruise to button pushing. And most airlines have rules AGAINST hand flying until the very end or beginning of a flight.
You need to understand what you are seeing and act on it. Once you know. It’s triage. A sudden uncommanded descent means act now. Thinking is not called for. Which means be a good aviator not a pilot.
If the pilots did not have their belts fastened the uncommanded descent pulls them out of their seats knocking them unconscious which is fatal for everyone. Given the nonchalant attitude I see in aviation everywhere these days . . . Those five point harnesses are uncomfortable for a 10 hour day.
Look. No one knows anything yet. But those airplanes can and do phone home. The maintenance of the aircraft was known by Boeing.
You need to understand what you are seeing and act on it. Once you know. It’s triage. A sudden uncommanded descent means act now. Thinking is not called for. Which means be a good aviator not a pilot.
If the pilots did not have their belts fastened the uncommanded descent pulls them out of their seats knocking them unconscious which is fatal for everyone. Given the nonchalant attitude I see in aviation everywhere these days . . . Those five point harnesses are uncomfortable for a 10 hour day.
Look. No one knows anything yet. But those airplanes can and do phone home. The maintenance of the aircraft was known by Boeing.