has anyone noticed that all of the cars just kept going????? nothing to see here just a jet sitting on the side of the road with a huge dust cloud coming from it....lol
Seriously, that must have hurt! For a minute I thought everyone was speaking spanish - so I thought it was L.A., but then realized it was portuguese...
Sau Paulo has a real bad track record - an airbus just blew up a gas station a little while ago.
When the plane came to a rest the dirt stopped getting blown away so I thought the engines were shut down. Later when the fire department showed up - you can see the water being blown back by engines. I didn't read the article - I don't have time to - but if the engines were still running - did the pilot loose consciousness? It ooked painful but not lethal.
Sorry, I mispoke- did the person called a pilot his whole career until he had the worst day of his career when he most certainly got injured- lost his license, embarrassed himself, and may have done something any one of us most certainly have done in the thousands of hours weve flown (landed long, hydroplaned) - only in his case he didn't recover.
Sure - he's got egg on his face - and no doubtedly made a mistake that day. But haven't we all made mistakes? In fact- have any of us ever had a "perfect flight"?
I'm just in a pissy mood - sorry I am taking it out on you. I would have giggled in the past but I am a little depressed lately. It was two years ago I had an accident at work and hurt my spine in three places and my left knee. I most likely will never fly again and live in constrain severe pain. Now I see things differently. I used to feel invincible - and then one day while putting to plane to sleep at the FBO at the end of our flying day I slipped and fell hard - hit my head on the engine (apparently because I messed up my neck really bad from a sharp object - and haven't been back in a cockpit ever since.
Now I think of things from a human experience rather than normal. I think of how a few seconds of your life can change it forever. And that it doesn't even take a bad decision for bad things to happen to you. One minute you're fine.... Poof.
If there is a god people have told me he wanted me to remind people to appreciate each day because you never know when life will change forever.
I'll try not to be so melencoly in future postings - this two year anniversary is really not cheering me up very much.
with the TAM crash the A320 had a faulty left thrust reverse a it was wet and stromy this was also when São Paulo Congonhas Airport didnt have grooves in the runway to get the runway free of standing water
it looks as though the pilot came in to fast and touched down to far up the runway with not enough distance to stop or there was a mechanical faliure with the brakes. but if the pilot ssaw he couldnt make it he should of done a go-around but why didnt he?
But braking is done usually at 60kts and below.. at the point he would've been braking there probably (without looking at the airport data) wouldn't have been time to add power and lift. He was already hot and when he hit that burm had enough airspeed to actually climb momentarily.
I agree with Gabriela. Congonhas has never been a safe airport and without proper government interference, nothing is going to change and this may become more and more of a commonplace at Congonhas.
Seems like Congonhas airport has always has a bad reputation even though the most well known accident involved an aircraft with a defective thrust reverser and a wet runway missing the proper grooved surface. If I remember correctly, even before this accident, Congonhas was an airport with a very tight runway configuration, and a difficult approach profile that worried even the best of pilots. At least, that was the impression the "Air Emergency" Discovery Channel episode alluded to when it profiled the Airbus Congonhas accident referenced here a couple of times.
If you look at this video http://news.sky.com/story/1011141/brazil-plane-crash-captured-on-cctv in the aerial video it looks like the plane went off the end of the runway at 45 degrees to the runway. It's looks like it's closer to being lined up with the taxiway that crosses 17L on the way to 17R.
So Runway 17L-35R is 4708'with average landing distance for the CJ being about 2700' and speed of approx 90+-kts at touchdown, have to wonder if it landed with the wind. It didn't seem to have shed much speed when it went off. Or landed very long. Hey never know that old ground effect scenario could have played a part and floated it for a bit if they came in a little too hot. Ahhh what do I know I wasn't there to see it. Just guessing here :)
Mostly a cloud of dust and then a little smoke. Was said runway was wet, like the way when he hit the bank after leaving the runway how it shot into the air then landed on the fence which stopped it.
What is wrong with this accident, it is just that the pilot thought that he was flying one of those strange automobile/aircraft hybrid contraptions and a wall happened to interfere, that is all.
So much money. so little structural integrity. I never imagined "popping a wheelie" in a CJ- wonder how far he could have carried it without that pesky road getting in the way?
Seriously folks? Would you stop your car and try scale an 8 foot concrete wall between the highway and a possible burning airplane? Really? The only option for anyone on the highway is to call 911 and report the incident....however I'm sure the control tower dispatched the firetrucks immediately.
A corporate jet overshot its designated runway at Congonhas Airport, slid down an embankment, bounced on a retaining wall and crashed in a cloud of smoke.