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Trump’s Visits Ground Business at Small New Jersey Airports

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HANOVER, N.J. — More than the sound of Cessnas and private jets at Morristown Municipal Airport this week was the buzz over the impending arrival of President Trump, who would be flying in for another weekend stay at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., where he spends time in the summer. (www.nytimes.com) Ещё...

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srobak
srobak 8
Now you know how 18 airfields and their pilots have been feeling in Chicagoland for nearly the last dozen years - and for future years to come anytime O comes to visit. Yeah, it's a huge PITA - but it has nothing to do with who specifically is in the plane. The same problem (and it is certainly a problem) has existed for decades and past presidents - and it will exist for future presidents as well.

This is not a Trump controversy anymore than it has been an Obama controversy. Politicizing this is flatly stupid and exhibits an agenda. Focus on the real problem at hand.
30west
30west 5
Another aviation website going by the wayside. I'm sad to see it happen.

FA used to be a great aviation website, meaningful discussions on aviation topics with serious input allowing for aviation enthusiasts at all levels to share their experiences, questions and knowledge. Unfortunately, it is morphing into a political website as seen in this squawk and many others.
dc3orbust
dc3orbust 4
And this is different than any other president ?? All was business as usual when Obama and Clinton visited their haunts?
macsurety
macsurety 4
That is a fair question. I'd be interested to know if it was any different for any of the previous Presidents - Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc.
khaiduk
Kevin Haiduk 6
zaba53
Chester Zaba 0
Right on point there. I noticed that right off the bat.
gcottay
George Cottay 3
The difference may be the frequency of trips to the same location which happens to be in a congested area. In any event, there seems to be no difference in the rules being used.
macsurety
macsurety 5
I seem to remember President Clinton flying into the San Jose area quite often [I think they used Moffett Field], when he made frequent visits to see Chelsea at Stanford and to visit his moneyed base there. The fact that the reporter does not make an explicit point about a difference in frequency - only offering a short quote at the end of the article suggesting no differences across Administrations - suggests to me that President Trump does not have a greater frequency of visits. If he did, then I would expect the reporter would have used that information to further stoke the flames of controversy.
hb1200
Howard Denner 3
Sad day when an article like this makes the list. Way off the center line of aviation. h
lynx318
lynx318 1
...why are people up-voting this article? Just voted it down from 15 to 14, hope others follow.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
This is a classic example of the news making a story about nothing. This has been going on since Presidents started using airplanes to go from place to place. Before that it was the railroads. This is a not a story at all.
watkinssusan
mary susan watkins 2
I have read the same complaints regarding private aviation in the area surrounding trumps mar a lago resort in florida..its a bit like closing down businesses on a busy street for more than one day to prepare for a parade!
RobAinscough
Rob Ainscough 2
I think this issue is that we tax payers are paying for Trump to stay at his own "Trump National Golf Club" … in other words a conflict of interest that otherwise would NOT be a conflict of interest with other sitting presidents that have "FULLY" flushed themselves of such conflicts. For example Reagan, Clinton, Bushes, Obama, etc. either sold businesses and/or ceded the a independent authority and some Presidents went even further and but all their assets in a blind trust. Trump however did not. Trump had promised to place all his assets in a trust, but what actually happened is Trump setup a Trust controlled by his son but Trump is the sole beneficiary. Anyway, that's why this is a big issue, conflict of interest at the tax payers expense.
allench1
allench1 4
Get off your pulpit Rob, This is NOT a site for Political statements. I agree with 30west. site has lost it's rudder.
RECOR10
RECOR10 -5
Any bets he is a mechanic or an aviation fan, not an owner....
canuck44
canuck44 3
So the country should only be led by career politicians, lawyers and community organizers all who are suddenly rich leaving office. Frankly we need someone who can generate a dollar by means other than reaching into my pocket.

I will remind Rob that Reagan x 2, Bush Kennedy all used their own properties in addition to Camp David while Obama shut down Hawaii at least twice yearly.along with the Vineyard during the summer.
dee9bee
dee9bee 2
This isn't anything new, unfortunately. Remember when the then-new President Clinton 'closed' LAX (Not intentionally,I don't think) while getting a haircut on AF1? Air tours businesses were crippled in Hawaii when Obama was visiting, though some sort of agreement was established as I recall.

It's one of my peeves: Presidents travel FAR more than needed. It's wasteful and disruptive.
ianmcdonell
ian mcdonell 2
Anti-Trump mania thrives in the media - all over the world!

This site needs to vet political rubbish like this please
jeroberts88
jeroberts88 2
There was also a very large crowd of people there, I mean a very, very ,very large crowd of people. It was the biggest crowd of people ever to watch a sitting president walk around and make motions to folks, but don't forget it was the biggest crowd of people in the history of history I mean it was BIG!
jdriskell
James Driskell 2
Herbert Hoover must have upset the locals in the Virginia mountains when he stayed at his fishing camp. Probably shut down all the moonshine stills for 20 miles around and put a hole in the local economy.
Highflyer1950
Highflyer1950 0
It’s what happens when you elect a president that has zero connection with the people that elected him. Even Trump followers have zero in common other than “change by lack of civility, lack of knowledge and lack of understanding” they just want change and their vote gives them that right. Education gives everyone a fair vote but they should exercise that right carefully. I don’t care where he goes or how often, I care how he represents the country and it’s ideals. Trust me if he goes off the rails very often, he will be replaced! Until then, voice your opinions and BTW I would rather him shut down MMU than EWR for a golf game,
allench1
allench1 5
Another political statement. Democrat much Lets get back to aviation as this site was started for!
srobak
srobak 2
Now you know how 18 airfields and their pilots have been feeling in Chicagoland for nearly the last dozen years - and for future years to come anytime O comes to visit. Yeah, it's a huge PITA - but it has nothing to do with who specifically is in the plane. The same problem (and it is certainly a problem) has existed for decades and past presidents - and it will exist for future presidents as well.

This is not a Trump controversy anymore than it has been an Obama controversy. Politicizing this is flatly stupid and exhibits an agenda. Focus on the real problem at hand.
RECOR10
RECOR10 1
Shall I talk about all the times our former POTUS had what I call "ShitBirdOne" stop all traffic in the air and on the ground around Chicago?
ADXbear
ADXbear 1
Obama's visits did the same thing everywhere he went as well.. the media cant stop making Trump look bad.. let's be fair
zaba53
Chester Zaba 1
Drop the politics FlightAware. Stay on subject. Most visitors here are not interested in the political opinion of others and publishing such only serves to dampen enthusiasm for the site.
srobak
srobak -1
This was posted by a user. Not flight aware.
zaba53
Chester Zaba 1
Then maybe a little admin control is in order.
srobak
srobak 0
M20ExecDriver
Dale Denisar 1
What does anyone expect from a left leaning rag like the NYT? It's just another one of their various and sundry Trump hit pieces. I had to put up with it when Obama was in office and there was NEVER an article written about it. I don't call it fake news, it's JUNK news.
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 0
Just look at the "controversies" that can be ginned up when a swamp is drained. There would not be a drop of ink used by the NY Times if Hillary spent a weekend out of town.
RECOR10
RECOR10 -5
You mean the "Holy One"? If I am not mistaken, had we freeze dried her menstruate and used it as a medication, well, it cures EVERYTHING. I think I heard that at a Barbara Streisand event, not sure.
carpcoppondpig
nick gorham -1
It's nice to see someone reporting on these issues. No matter where the President is in the US his presence is crippling the local aviation industry.
srobak
srobak 1
Why do you have to further make this political? This is a problem that has existed for decades and will continue to do so - regardless who is in the WH and who is riding in the plane. This is not the place for your political agenda.
carpcoppondpig
nick gorham 4
I said the President. I didn't say Trump, Obama, Bush, etc.
srobak
srobak -4
You didn't have to. You said the president - and right now there is only one. Making a broad stroke statement that he is crippling the aviation industry is flatly false.
carpcoppondpig
nick gorham 1
Semantics, but saying "a President" would be false. Former Presidents are still referred to as "President." But they do not get the TFR protection.

How about, "Where ever a sitting President is, no matter who or their party affiliation, they are crippling the local aviation industry."

Is that better? By the way, slow your roll. I voted for Trump in the primaries. I voted for Trump in the general election. I'll vote for him in 2020 if he runs. Attacking others is NOT the way to draw them to our side.
got2flycfi
david goetz 0
Don't they realize people are tired of the bashing. I say to the writer of that article "YOU'RE FIRED"
ClaudeWearing
Claude Wearing -1
For a guy who said he would work and not play much golf, seems something is wrong. Trump is quite the issue. He's American, what more can I say.
jdriskell
James Driskell -3
Maybe we should lock the doors on the White House to keep him in. That way he can get into less trouble.
srobak
srobak 2
Why do you have to further make this political? This is a problem that has existed for decades and will continue to do so - regardless who is in the WH and who is riding in the plane. This is not the place for your political agenda.
RECOR10
RECOR10 -3
If so, I wonder in what decade they would find Monica? ;-)
jradcliffe
Jim Radcliffe -8
I’m amazed at how many liberal losers show up here. Your girl lost, so get over it. Your continued sour grapes rhetoric has become treasonous and is damaging this country. All because your candidate lost. The country hired President Trump because he has the guts to make the changes we want. We know he isn’t perfect, as none of us are. Please consider the damage you are doing to the stability and future of this country. No doubt one day your candidate will be President, and we will support them. You should do the same now, for all our benefit.
srobak
srobak 2
Now you know how 18 airfields and their pilots have been feeling in Chicagoland for nearly the last dozen years - and for future years to come anytime O comes to visit. Yeah, it's a huge PITA - but it has nothing to do with who specifically is in the plane. The same problem (and it is certainly a problem) has existed for decades and past presidents - and it will exist for future presidents as well.

This is not a Trump controversy anymore than it has been an Obama controversy. Politicizing this is flatly stupid and exhibits an agenda - no matter which side of the political fence you are on. Focus on the real problem at hand.
KineticRider
Randy Marco 1
The ignorance of trumpf supporters is astounding > YOU are UnAmerican to support a proven pathological liar and traitor!
srobak
srobak 1
allench1
allench1 -6
YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR 55 IQ AT HOME Randy Marco
jradcliffe
Jim Radcliffe -7
Get a life. You need help and guidance.
jamesds
james sloat 0
Another coward Nazi terrorist keyboard warrior rises from his mom's basement.
CHBHA
CB HARDY -2
You can't buy airplanes with food stamps.
ukusa
Georgina Echols -1
A6SEA
Bill Butler -1
A wearisome article and, unfortunately, an even more wearisome set of comments. Not much about planes in this one.
srobak
srobak 0
And your post certainly helped.
bobkeeping
Bob Keeping -1
There should be NO special treatment - let 'em have the same risks as the rest od us. BAN TFR's. Aalso - they should have to be TSA Groped as well'
DRotten
D Rotten -4
And??? This is a NON 'news' BS piece. FlightAware couldn't find any ACTUAL news?? Nahhhhh.....just MORE STUPID, ANTI-AMERICAN LibTards want to WHINE like 3 year olds! Well, AMERICANS are SICK of it!
DonMc123
DON MCLAIN 4
Sounds like you are the one that's whining. Calm down......
jamesds
james sloat 3
Sounds like you have a problem. Just like your name, you're rotten to the core.
srobak
srobak 2
Flight aware didn't write the article. Nor Did they post it. It was printed by the new York Times from one of their authors. A link to the article was posted on flight aware by a flight aware user.

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